News that the NFL had adopted a rule change that requires all players to wear knee and thigh pads in 2013 was not received favorably Tuesday by some Raiders players.
"Personally, I won't be wearing them," cornerback Ron Bartell said. "So I'd better put some fine money away."
The issue among many players is it cuts down on their most important commodity.
"It takes away from the speed of the game," Bartell said. "Hip pads, knee pads, thigh pads. They're not going to stop you from tearing an ACL. It may stop a couple of soft-tissue injuries, but a knee pad isn't going to stop a guy from blowing out a knee."
Safety Michael Huff said at college in Texas, he doctored the pads to make it look like he was wearing them when he actually wasn't.
"We cut 'em out and just had a little foam, a little piece of paper there," Huff said. "But we never really wore 'em."
Linebacker Travis Goethel, who plays a position where extra padding would seem like a good idea, wants no part of the rule.
"I hate that. I don't want that at all," Goethel said. "I don't like having anything restricting my movement in my legs. If you get hit in the thigh it really doesn't do too much to help you out."
The closest thing to a "yes" vote came from safety Matt Giordano, who allowed that he doesn't wear a lot of padding but said, "If that's the rule, we're going to abide by them and wear them and probably wake up a little less sore on Monday morning."
The league still must work with the players' union before the rule is implemented since it wasn't accounted for in collective bargaining.
"I was doing a lot of the same things last year, but now it's pretty much hand in the dirt," Ausberry said. "There were a lot of formations where I am split out wide, but now it's more about being a real tight end. It feels pretty good."
"I love it. It's fast, it's open, we've got the zone working," Goodson said. "It's kind of like a one-cut-and-go deal. I think it plays to my advantages. Get in there and make one move and get up field, use your speed."
Others who were on site rehabbing injuries were center Stefen Wisniewski and safety Mike Mitchell. Fullback Manase Tonga is also rehabbing from minor knee surgery.
"He needs to get in here pretty soon," Allen said. "He needs to get caught up to what we're doing."
Those who were not present Tuesday included defensive tackle Richard Seymour, defensive tackle Tommy Kelly (personal matter), punter Shane Lechler and kicker Sebastian Janikowski.
"It's always good to end with a pick, especially in a two-minute drill," Taylor said.