ALAMEDA -- Raiders offensive coordinator Greg Olson has reached out to suspended Miami guard Richie Incognito, whom he once coached while on the staff of the St. Louis Rams.
Running back Jeremy Stewart hasn't spoken with Jonathan Martin but expressed surprise that his former Stanford teammate is at least temporarily out of football while sorting out his future after allegedly being bullied and harassed by Incognito.
Like everyone else, the two Raiders with direct ties to the principals are sorting out a multilayered story and trying to make sense of it.
"Nobody wins," Olson said Thursday during his weekly briefing with the media.
"The team doesn't win. The players don't win. The organization doesn't win. It's sad to see how it's played out."
Olson has talked with Incognito since the lineman was suspended for conduct detrimental to the team. A transcript has surfaced that has Incognito making racially charged threats toward Martin, who played alongside him on the left side of Miami's offensive line.
"He felt it was taken out of context," Olson said. "He felt like he had a good relationship in that locker room, not only with the player in question but most of the players in the locker room."
Incognito played with the Rams from 2006-09, with Olson serving as offensive coordinator during his first two seasons there. Olson said he liked Incognito's toughness and dedication but was concerned about his behavior.
It was during that time Incognito piled up penalties at an alarming rate (38 in three years, including seven personal fouls). He told NFL.com in an August interview he was "doing drugs, doing everything a professional athlete shouldn't be doing" and had lost control.
"Things went over the top in St. Louis, and I thought he needed help or he'd never play in the NFL again," Olson said.
Olson left the Rams after the 2007 season and took a job with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Incognito was cut by the Rams late in the 2009 season after getting two penalties for head-butting, finishing the year in Buffalo and getting a second chance with Miami as a free agent in 2010.
When Olson reconnected with Incognito in South Florida, he was pleased with what he saw.
"I felt like at that time he'd turned the corner a little bit in terms of maturity and the importance of being a football player but also being responsible in his actions," Olson said. "So it was disappointing, some of the things that we're reading and hearing, but you need to just hope it's not true."
Stewart, when asked about Martin being in his current situation, smiled and shook his head.
"I knew him for four years," Stewart said. "I've been hearing the same stories as you. It's crazy. I mean, he was a normal guy, a regular guy like everyone else. It's surprising that something like that would happen to him. I don't know what was going on over there."
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